Sat 10 Mar 2007
Guns don’t kill people, people with mustaches kill people
Posted by me under controversial , brief thoughts , politics
A dozen or so of you have already completed my Gun Control survey. Several more of you have written to complain that the survey is too long. We all know, however, that survey results aren’t very useful unless a number of the surveys are completed, so that requires your participation. We don’t want sampling size error, do we? Go ahead and fill it out, won’t you? Also, did you notice I actually listened to the feedback from the last survey we had? Instead of check yes or no, I added a range of options. I’m a good listener.
So let’s talk about bear arms and our rights. During the Anglo-Saxon period, carrying a seax (a single bladed knife) was a mark of a free man, as slaves were forbidden to possess weapons. Times have changed since then, but as free Americans, we have the right to own and carry weapons. It’s in the Bill of Rights:
The second amendment:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
You might notice that the 2nd amendment is strangely worded. It poses more questions than it answers. Q. Who does the
Amendment mean by “the People”? Q. Why does the Amendment protect the right to ‘keep and bear arms’, and not protect just the right to ‘bear arms’? Q. Who or what does the Amendment mean by the “militia”? Is the militia the same thing as today’s National Guard? Q. What does “shall not be infringed” mean? Q. what does “well-regulated” mean? Q. Is the ban from infringement speaking to the federal government or the state government or both? Q. What kind of arms are citizens allowed to have? pistols? hunting rifles? shotguns? military (assault) rifles? automatic weapons?
And then there is me. Where do I stand? Though I’ve never admitted on this blog to actually owning any weapons, I have blogged about firearms a few times. Ownership aside however, as a man of science, I’m heavily swayed by appeals to logic and common sense. Studies and surveys, carefully administered, are therefore very important to me.
Enter statistics. In particular, let’s compare two countries England and Switzerland. The two represent polar ends of the gun control spectrum. England has the some of the most severe gun control laws in the world. Handguns are banned for civilians, even for sporting purposes. You must get a certificate from the police to own a shotgun or a rifle for hunting, and the certificates are difficult to obtain. In Switzerland, on the other hand, every male between the ages of 20 and 42 can be called into the military should need require. After completing a short period of active duty, they are enrolled in the national guard until age or an inability to serve ends their service obligation. During that enrollment the men are required to keep their government-issued automatic rifles and semi-automatic pistols in their homes, alongside boxes of ammunition. As well, Swiss citizens are allowed to purchase surplus combat rifles.
Here is a PDF showing crime statistics in the UK in 2004/2005. Some points of interest:
- Only 1% of violent crimes involved a firearm.
- A low percentage of homicides (11% of male victims and 5% of female victims) involved firearms. Most homicides were committed with “sharp instruments.”
- “Less than three per cent of firearm crimes resulted in a serious or fatal injury”
- “a big increase in imitation weapon offenses… “
- 40% of the violent crimes involving firearms were with pistols, even though pistols are illegal to possess.
And then there is Switzerland. Between 1998 and 2000, the entire country had only 69 Murders, which equates to a Murders (per capita) rate of 0.00921351 per 1,000 people, that despite the aforementioned 600,000 issued M-57 assault rifles. Anti-Gun Control advocates have claimed that widespread access to firearms acts as a deterrent to criminals and dramatically decreases crime. A recent study comparing serious crime in eight developed countries might help buttress that claim. Switzerland had the lowest crime of the eight in nearly every category. Check, for instance, the graph below on burglary rates.
On to another aspect: you should know that I’m concerned about a matter of delegation. If you don’t carry a weapon yourself, you’re delegating the task of protection to someone else. The police. What about in times of civil unrest or martial law or invasion? And then there is a question of who is policing the police.
Let’s not forget the University of Utah. That university believed it could institute anti-gun laws in direct contravention to state laws. ‘Cause they’re liberal and gutsy like that. The Utah Supreme court, on the other hand, predictably reminded the Utes that, as a state funded organization, they were in no position to legislate against state mandates. So, now people can carry their concealed weapons on that Salt Lake campus without fear of harassment by the unarmed mobs. On a related note, recently, while browsing at Cabelas, I might have seen Utah’s attorney General (Mark Shurtleff) in front of me in line, purchasing a pistol. Mark, of course, was the defendant named in the above referenced case concerning the University of Utah.
Further reading:
Gun Politics
Brady Act
State-by-State Overview of Gun Laws
Visit my funny gun control picture album:
March 10th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
I would think it misguided to compare national homicide statistics and stances on gun control. There are so many factors to violent crime beyond the availability of weapons. Some societies are just more violent than others, gun control aside.
Sampling size errors are the least of your statistical worries. I’ve listened enough to the resident statistician to recognize that a self-selected survey can lead to few, if any, meaningful conclusions. Imagine polling “is capitalism a good thing?” at CPUSA.org.
Ramble on, ramble on…
March 10th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
David, it’s true that my oversimplification of the issue is a bit naive. As well, I failed to mention the classic correlation/causation problem. Still, when determining cause and effect you must consider influencing factors and in our context whether gun control attributes to lesser violent crime is an important question to address.
So, how would we find out if strict (or loose) gun laws affect crime?
March 11th, 2007 at 9:57 am
IMHO Gun control is being able to hit your target.
If you were going to commit a crime against a person, and you KNEW they had a loaded and ready firearm, you would think differently than if you KNEW they didn’t have one.
Think about it…how many police are robbed at gun point?!
March 11th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
I believe every child at the young age of 7 should be trained on the proper use, handling, cleaning and firing of a single-shot bolt-action rifle, a semi-automatic pistol, and a semi-automatic rifle. After successful training, the youngster should be provided a beginning weapon of his or her own, such as a .22 rifle.
The youngster should also be taught the views of taking life only for two reasons. The first reason would be to protect your own life or the life of those you love. The second reason should be to provide food for yourself and the ones you love. The child should be taken hunting for small game, such as rabbits. After successful teachings, the youngster should be taken hunting for bigger animals, such as Deer, Moose, and Elk. The child should also be provided a knife and the teachings of skinning and preparing those animals for storage.
The child should be taught the proper use, sharpening, and cleaning of a skinning blade.
This will teach a child how to use weapons to protect and feed himself and those (s)he loves. The child will also learn respect for life. The child should have a father, or role model, that teaches him these items.
That\’s my view, because that\’s how I was raised. I still remember my father teaching me how to fire a bolt-action .22. I was taught respect for the weapon and respect for the animals. I was also taught how to skin a Moose and prepare it for storage, and the ways to cook it.
I also lived an hour from any town, where in the winter we would be snowed in for days at a time. I used a chainsaw to chop down trees and was paid to cord up wood for the fireplace.
It was a fun beginning, and taught me a lot.
–William
March 11th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
By the way, for those that need clarification, my view is that every single person in the U.S.A. should have a personal firearm. I also believe in recording the firearms to catch those that break the law.
–Will
March 12th, 2007 at 10:31 am
I would have to agree with Spig’s opinion here. Let’s look at Samoa. I couldn’t find any statistics on the Internet, but I’m relatively familiar with the culture.
There is very little crime and hardly anyone owns a gun. Even most hunting is still done with spears and knifes.
That being said, I also agree with William to some extent and in turn with what the Swiss have accomplished. If the people that had guns were better trained (militarily would be ideal), I would have less of an issue with certain guns.
Am I an advocate of gun control? Not really. Do I own a gun? Nope… and I never will.
My only issue is handguns. In our society, handguns cause a lot of problems. Handguns have very little purpose and are used in most violent crimes involving firearms. People can get them too far too easily (without any training).
If every handgun owner were better trained, I would have less of a problem with them, but even then I don’t see the purpose in handguns.
If there were a solid, well thought-out plan to somehow remove handguns from our society, I would fully support it.
March 12th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
I have one thing to say about this topic.
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March 12th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Handgun = close range combat
Rifle = long range combat
It’s not too hard to figure out what a handgun is for.
–Will
March 12th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
My gut feeling is there is little utility in determining the effect of gun control legislation on crime rates. It would seem that either side of the argument can come up with counter examples of why such legislation has a positive or negative correlation on crime rates, mostly by ignoring other variables that may have a greater weight. Good luck teasing the variables out!
While I haven’t yet gotten to this book, it looks to be promising to help with this argument. I keep letting library books preempt my reading queue–something about a due date does that to me!:
http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Cowards-Jeff-Snyder/dp/1888118083
Besides, I thought crime rates were highly correlated with abortion rates, ala Freakonomics? Where do you really stand on crime rates if you’re anti-abortion
I jest, I jest….
http://www.amazon.com/Freakonomics-Revised-Expanded-Economist-Everything/dp/0061234001/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6355656-3868716?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173741375&sr=1-1
March 14th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
More blogposts, please!
March 14th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
my delay in posting new blog entries is due almost exclusively to my school schedule (term finals now.) A small part of me also hoped that if I left this post up longer, more of you would be swayed to take the gun control survey. Sadly that has not been the case. arghhh!
My final is tonight, so I’ll post more after that.
’til then!
March 15th, 2007 at 9:40 am
April 16th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
[…] Sincerest condolences to those affected by today’s senseless killings at Virginia Tech, the deadliest shooting in US history. In the days to come there will be certainly discussions about gun control (and guns on campus), the second amendment and about causative factors like the increasingly violent media. There will be many heated polemics over these and other controversial topics soon enough. But today is for silent pausing and praying for those whose lives were taken and for those whose lives are forever altered as a result. May God be with them. […]