Thu 13 Sep 2007
Most people probably believe that torture should not be a tool in an interrogator’s toolbox. Even when dealing with terrorists, if we stoop to their level of depravity, it’s argued, are we any better than they are? Plus, what kind of actionable intelligence are you likely to get from someone who is being tortured? They’ll likely say anything for the torture to stop.
On the other hand, when the situation’s context is brought closer to home, the decision to ban all torture, all the time, is less certain. If a man has kidnapped your young daughter and left her in a wooden box buried in the desert with little food or water, you might be tempted to beat up that man in the hopes that he’ll give up the location. How far would you go to extract the information? Julian Baggini gives this version of the torture thought experiment:
Hadi’s captives looked resolute, but he was sure he could break them, as long as he followed through on his threat. The father, Brad, was the real villain. It was he who had planted the huge bomb that he promised would kill hundreds, perhaps thousands of innocent civilians. Only he knew where the bomb was, and he wasn’t telling. [Brad’s son], Wesley, had nothing to do with it. But Hadi’s intelligence told him that, though Brad would not break under torture, he almost certainly would if he were to see his son tortured in front of him. Not immediately, but soon enough. … If [Hadi] didn’t order the torture, would he be condemning people to death, just because of his own squeamishness and lack of moral courage?
How about you; would you order the torture?
September 13th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
this was a scenario on a season of 24. Jack needed to get information from a terrorist about the location of some weapons. he had the terrorist in LA, or wherever he was, and there was a team in whatever middle eastern country they were in, and when he would not give the location, you saw the other team kick a family member to the ground, they were tied up in chairs, and shot. eventually, he told them where the bombs were, and Jack saves the world. You then find out, that it was all set up. The family members were not killed.
I remember someone saying once, that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
damn terrorists.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
I think you should explain to Brad’s son that if he doesn’t get his dad to co-operate (don’t want anyone to think I’m erating a coop), that he (the son) will be tortured. Then at least the son has a choice in it as well.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Sodium Pentathol
A nice fat dose of Sodium Pentathol would probably do the trick. No torture necessary.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Whoops, Pentothol, not Pentathol.
September 14th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
Pentothal….. I can type.
September 14th, 2007 at 2:06 pm
I’m all for torture if the lives of many are in harms way and the torture of a few can save those lives, especially in times of war. I doubt they’ll tell you the truth if they don’t fear something.
Torture can be physical, emotional, or anything else that strikes a type of fear in a person.
People heal.
September 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Like William’s fear of gays.
:o)
September 15th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
What? I don’t fear people that have a different sexual orientation than myself.
Why would you say something like that? I’m baffled.